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[identity profile] lisaquestions.livejournal.com 2008-11-05 10:32 pm (UTC)(link)
I used to think this, but now... fuck them. The churches don't own marriage.

If we did it that way, the religious right would take it as a mandate that Christianity really does own marriage as a concept.

Also: As has been demonstrated in Oregon, even though they might say they're down with civil unions, they're opposed to those as well.

[identity profile] terry-terrible.livejournal.com 2008-11-07 02:27 am (UTC)(link)
I probably should've said religious institutions and individuals. I don't know, I have never been to keen on marriage as a institution, how it's so weighed down in historical patriarchy kind of makes it poisonous to me. I just find the splitting of hairs over "marriage" and "civil unions" to be nonsense.

That distinction was just created by the a reaction to religious right pressure by activists to make the idea more appealing to the public. In a long term strategic sense we may have shot ourselves in the foot, since it gives people a chance to vote against gay marriage and still feel like they aren't denying a right or a privilege.