lisaquestions: Hawkgirl from Justice League cartoon looking shocked with the words "No amount of therapy will ever make this okay." (Hawkgirl therapy)
Lisa Harney ([personal profile] lisaquestions) wrote2009-05-20 08:06 pm

Pro-tip!

Never try to explain Scott Summer's love life.
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[identity profile] lisaquestions.livejournal.com 2009-05-21 12:19 pm (UTC)(link)
I think the handling of Banner and Hulk was pretty good, I was just annoyed with the casual homophobia.

Stuff like "HULK STRAIGHT!" followed by Hulk killing aliens because he thought they wanted to sex him up was really disturbing to me.

[identity profile] floorcandy.livejournal.com 2009-05-21 12:37 pm (UTC)(link)
That was genuinely disturbing, for the realism. That's probably what you would get when you add what would generally be considered mild homophobia, a lack of confidence in your own sexuality and the release of a cannibalistic monster on heat. T_T

In the fairness of context though, I don't think anything about the Hulk was meant to be endearing. (Some stupid people though seemed to consider it funny.)
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[identity profile] lisaquestions.livejournal.com 2009-05-21 12:41 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes.

I get the impression that was meant to be funny. And part of me wonders if the writer realized how awful it was, or cared.

[identity profile] floorcandy.livejournal.com 2009-05-21 12:44 pm (UTC)(link)
I doubt it.

It took me a few times reading to pick up on the supposed humour of it, maybe because the writer part of me wonders how such a pathetic creature could ever be considered funny.
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[identity profile] lisaquestions.livejournal.com 2009-05-21 12:48 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah.

The animated version was treated a bit better.

[identity profile] floorcandy.livejournal.com 2009-05-21 12:50 pm (UTC)(link)
Personally, I was in it for Ultimate Thor. :P (And a little bit of Cap, but less so than Cap 616.)
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[identity profile] lisaquestions.livejournal.com 2009-05-21 12:52 pm (UTC)(link)
I was in it for a modern reboot that'd shake off the cruft of 40 years of stale continuity.

That and I really wanted the X-Men to be cool.

[identity profile] radiumhead.livejournal.com 2010-09-02 07:49 pm (UTC)(link)
yeah, but wouldnt that be in character for him? Hes the Hulk-hes supposed to be a moron.
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[identity profile] lisaquestions.livejournal.com 2010-09-02 08:13 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, maybe. I mean, Hulk's supposed to not be very intelligent (not fond of moron, tbh, but I'm not calling you out here, just saying), and this is true. But the writers choose how to portray that, and when they choose to portray that as Hulk killing aliens because he thinks they're gay? Yeah, that's really not cool.

[identity profile] radiumhead.livejournal.com 2010-09-02 08:50 pm (UTC)(link)
you could be right. the writer couldve just left that part out. im not trying to argue about it, im just saying-depending on which incarnation of Hulk it is, he could be stupid, vicious, with any number of bad character traits. Especially Ultimates Hulk. I wouldnt expect him to understand homophobia, or care.

but its totally possible the writer just did the scene cause he thought it was funny..
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[identity profile] lisaquestions.livejournal.com 2010-09-02 09:35 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, but the Hulk doesn't exist independent of being written, drawn, animated, filmed, etc.

So we're not seeing how Hulk thinks, we're seeing the writer's thought processes. And the writer thought pantomiming a gay bashing with Hulk and aliens was funny? Yeah, I kind of guessed that when I read it. But that doesn't invalidate what I am saying.

[identity profile] radiumhead.livejournal.com 2010-09-02 07:54 pm (UTC)(link)
if it was like, i dont know, Cap or Iron Man, id think it was regular homophobia.