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From: [personal profile] amokk


ah, yeah, that. There's already lawsuits being worked up in California.
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From: [identity profile] lisaquestions.livejournal.com


And I hope the courts reach one of two conclusions:

Strike down 8, or strike down marriage. :)

From: [identity profile] terry-terrible.livejournal.com


Actually, I think just giving everyone civil unions as a civil contract and leaving the silly marriage thing up to religious institutions would be the best all-around solution.
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From: [identity profile] lisaquestions.livejournal.com


I used to think this, but now... fuck them. The churches don't own marriage.

If we did it that way, the religious right would take it as a mandate that Christianity really does own marriage as a concept.

Also: As has been demonstrated in Oregon, even though they might say they're down with civil unions, they're opposed to those as well.

From: [identity profile] terry-terrible.livejournal.com


I probably should've said religious institutions and individuals. I don't know, I have never been to keen on marriage as a institution, how it's so weighed down in historical patriarchy kind of makes it poisonous to me. I just find the splitting of hairs over "marriage" and "civil unions" to be nonsense.

That distinction was just created by the a reaction to religious right pressure by activists to make the idea more appealing to the public. In a long term strategic sense we may have shot ourselves in the foot, since it gives people a chance to vote against gay marriage and still feel like they aren't denying a right or a privilege.
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From: [personal profile] kiya


And for those of us whose gods aren't weird enough to care about marriage, then? Are we the new second-class citizens?

Oh, wait, non-Christians are already not real people.

From: [identity profile] terry-terrible.livejournal.com


Okay wait a minute, I didn't specify which institution did I? Hell, I think if two get together and just want to call it "marriage" then they have the right too if they don't want a regligious ceremony involved. But the whole struggle semantics over whether to call it a civil union or marriage just seems absurd to me. It just might be best to get the government out of the marriage business across the board.
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From: [personal profile] kiya


"Getting the government out of the marriage business" means abolishing the probate courts, abandoning the concept of next of kin, and removing all inheritance protocols. It's a legal contract, we have an entire branch of government for looking after legal contracts.
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