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Lisa Harney ([personal profile] lisaquestions) wrote2010-03-25 09:45 pm

Never ask if it's possible for Amanda Palmer to fail more

[livejournal.com profile] sparkymonster lays down the facts on Amanda's latest fail. Between this and the response to criticism of Evelyn/Evelyn? No limits on the fail.

Some of the pictures at Sparkymonsters post are potentially triggering images of racist violence. Be warned.

h/t [livejournal.com profile] karnythia

[identity profile] terry-terrible.livejournal.com 2010-03-26 05:03 am (UTC)(link)
AFP's quote actually left my mouth hanging open. It takes a lot to shock me these days. I'm at a loss of words.

[identity profile] terry-terrible.livejournal.com 2010-03-26 05:08 am (UTC)(link)
And it's even more galling that Gaga can generate all kinds of controversy out there over nothing and create legions of people out there who love or hate her (yet both camps are still obsessed with her).

All the while that dirtbag Amanda Palmer can have a field day with ablism and telling people it's hipster-irony to give money to the Klan and the only people who will notice and raise a fuss are people in a few pockets on the internet who notice and give a shit about oppression and equality.

We live in a very fucked-up world.
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[identity profile] lisaquestions.livejournal.com 2010-03-26 05:35 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, ngl, I'm not at all enthralled with Gaga's new video.

But this is not in the least an appropriate response. Hipster racism is just regular racism.

[identity profile] winterfox.livejournal.com 2010-03-26 06:06 am (UTC)(link)
What... what's wrong with Palmer?

[identity profile] winterfox.livejournal.com 2010-03-26 06:06 am (UTC)(link)
(Oh god and her fans. Ugh.)
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[identity profile] lisaquestions.livejournal.com 2010-03-26 07:25 am (UTC)(link)
She's willing to fuck up and pretend it's okay.
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[identity profile] auntysarah.livejournal.com 2010-03-26 07:56 am (UTC)(link)
Oh god, what the fuck is her problem?

Thanks for the warning about the pictures. I looked anyway but yeah, the reality of Naziism is ... sobering.
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[identity profile] lisaquestions.livejournal.com 2010-03-26 08:06 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, although the KKK predates Naziism by several decades. 1865 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ku_Klux_Klan) by southern Civil War veterans, specifically.
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[identity profile] auntysarah.livejournal.com 2010-03-26 10:18 am (UTC)(link)
Didn't realise the organisation went back that far. How depressing :-(
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[identity profile] lisaquestions.livejournal.com 2010-03-26 10:20 am (UTC)(link)
It was a direct backlash to the end of slavery in the US.
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[identity profile] auntysarah.livejournal.com 2010-03-26 10:21 am (UTC)(link)
Makes sense now I think about it.

[identity profile] snugglebitch.livejournal.com 2010-03-26 01:06 pm (UTC)(link)
One of the (many) reasons it took so long for the US to enter WWII was that we didn't really have any beef with the Nazis. They were doing a lot of the same things we were doing (sterilizing "undesirables," creating internment camps, genocide), they just took them to the nadir (and then lost a war, so their sins were writ large on the international scene, whereas ours nobody talks about).

[identity profile] estrobutch.livejournal.com 2010-03-26 02:40 pm (UTC)(link)
and weren't there war dollars helping float our depressed economy?

[identity profile] sin-nombre.livejournal.com 2010-03-26 04:34 pm (UTC)(link)
We had business interests there, yeah. No one likes to talk about American 'heroes' who supported the Nazis, either--Charles Lindbergh, Henry Ford, etc.

I'm sure it also helped that, as the Germans had already shown, mobilizing for war on a large scale helps get countries out of the throes of a deep depression.

[identity profile] cmcmck.livejournal.com 2010-03-26 04:44 pm (UTC)(link)
Not to mention Kennedy senior........

It wasn't only Nazi Germany that endorsed Eugenic theories between the wars- it was, frighteningly, a commonplace throughout the 'developed' world.

[identity profile] floorcandy.livejournal.com 2010-03-26 11:49 am (UTC)(link)
I've been hearing about this from a die-hard Amanda Palmer fan who is quick to her defense. Apparently it's just 'black humour' (more poor wording) and nobody has the stomach for it.

No wonder she's apologetic. With some fans you can do no wrong, and after a while that will only validate your stupid.
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[identity profile] lisaquestions.livejournal.com 2010-03-26 11:55 am (UTC)(link)
I would say no one has the stomach for it because it's horrible and in poor taste. But yeah, fans can sometimes be astoundingly uncritical.

Also, I like Meloukhia's post about hipster racism (http://meloukhia.net/2009/07/hipster_racism.html).

[identity profile] kat-chan.livejournal.com 2010-03-27 04:10 am (UTC)(link)
I think that the first time I'd seen an actual lynching photo was in my US History text from college. That, along with reading The Autobiography of Frederick Douglass for that class went a long way toward removing the white suburban blinders I'd been raised with. It brought the horrors of the violent racism of the US home to me. But it was still a couple of years until I realized that it wasn't just a thing of the past. Even after the Rodney King case I thought that it wasn't in the here and now. I don't remember exactly when I fully realized and understood the subtle racism of the present. It may have been when I watched "Do The Right Thing" for my multi-cultural Ed class. Or possibly even "Bob Roberts". But it was sometime around 1993 or 1994. It's kind of embarrassing that it took that long.

[identity profile] paulathomas.livejournal.com 2010-04-02 04:23 am (UTC)(link)
This is just Amanda Palmer trying to get me some publicity again. Lady Gaga(LG), like her or not, is way above Palmer in the food chain, so Palmer hopes that by setting up a 'controversy' between herself and LG she will get some publicity.

Palmer is rapidly becoming the Troll of the music industry.